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Minigun - The Return of "Ol' Painless" Options
the enigma that is badger
Posted: Thursday, December 18, 2008 10:38:06 PM


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GreenLead wrote:
If you're looking for a TF2 minigun, excellent ones have been custom-brickbuilt by a fellow forum member, Victor "Hobo4ever" Vitale. If you want, I can refer you to him (PM me)

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GreenLead wrote:
That being said, I firmly believe this thread is for the discussion of a M134D, not a TF2 Minigun.

Well, as the originator of this thread (and a mod to boot), I can definitely state this thread is open for discussion of all types of real-life, smaller versions of machine guns that feature a gatling-style rotating barrel system. Yes, the discussion has centered around the M134 and M134D, but other types are fair game as well.

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Posted: Saturday, December 20, 2008 12:49:22 AM

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I've also tried brick-built, but it just doesn't feel right. I still say a clip-on Barrel Magazine is the best option for what I'm trying to do.

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Posted: Sunday, December 21, 2008 1:40:20 AM


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Brick Scout wrote:
I've also tried brick-built, but it just doesn't feel right. I still say a clip-on Barrel Magazine is the best option for what I'm trying to do.

I'm just wondering, though, whether the minigun you want is just to fill your particular need. I personally prefer ones derived from real-life versions (not just the M134D, as badger noted there were other real-life options), that can be used in a variety of MOCs, rather than just for a TF2-esque MOC.

The clip-on barrel magazine would, in my opinion, add complexity to an otherwise good design.

All in all, I'm a strong advocate for a hypothetical BrickArms minigun to be based mostly on the M134D, as I feel it's the most commonly used vehicle mounted minigun with much versatility to offer.

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Posted: Saturday, January 10, 2009 7:53:21 PM
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for weapon designs such as this the best place to look is at Hasbro's G.I.Joe toy line, they have hand held mini-gatlings and such and would give Will a better idea on how to pre-fab them.
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Posted: Saturday, January 10, 2009 8:11:15 PM


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Asterios wrote:
the best place to look is at Hasbro's G.I.Joe toy line

As far as I know, the only 3 1/2 inch scale minigun that's ever been produced is by Marauder, a custom G.I. Joe accessory business (Marauder is to Joes as BrickArms is to minifigs!)



It's a nice piece, but lacking in detail and with barrels that are a bit too long. That said, there are many, many different minigun designs out there, both fixed and hand-held, and while it would be a more technically difficult item, I have no doubt Will could design one that's a unique design to BrickArms but perfectly captures the minigun look within the minifig accessory aesthetic.

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Posted: Thursday, January 15, 2009 11:58:54 PM


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Now that I've had some more time to think of it, there's an issue I thought I'd like to highlight.

Most miniguns consist of a series of parallel individual barrels arranged in a circle, with retaining rings placed at particular points along the length of the barrel assembly to keep the barrels parallel and together. Considering Will's clamshell-like two-mold-halve process, the spaces within and between the barrels is nigh-on impossible to mold, because of concave parts.

A possible simplification could be to make the middle space of the barrel assembly solid. However, classic miniguns have six barrels, and again, the concave faces that need to be produced in the molds would mean that once the plastic has cooled, the barrel is literally stuck inside. Of course, one could have the barrel produced using a six-piece mold that opens like a petal to release the barrel assembly, but this would add complexity to the production of the accessory.

A simplification could be to have just four barrels instead, arranged like a cross. This would allow for Will present mold configuration to handle it.

Thoughts?

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Posted: Monday, January 19, 2009 7:51:17 PM
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I saw it has a you hold it from a handles coming out of the top, and then a Small Stick can be attacked to other legos and such, along with a tripod.
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Posted: Sunday, January 25, 2009 1:59:22 AM

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I think if there is a BrickArms M134 MiniGun that is hand held then there should be a de-atachable piece that can be used to mount on a humvee, as the MiniGun I have on my current humvee isn't very good.I built one similat to Dustmaster's but I can't figure out how to mount it ina good-looking way onto my humvee:[

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Posted: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 2:46:14 AM

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I think a minigun would be a great idea for a BA weapon! You could even make the body and the barrels two seperate peices so that the barrels can spin!

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Posted: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 3:46:24 AM
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In considering a BA minigun, I was wondering if it could possibly be designed in such a way that it could also be mounted to a small carriage and used as a civil war era Gatling gun?

As far as other design elements go, if you made the "handles" grip-able mounting points for mono-pods, that would allow for a wide amount of pose-ability with the minifig, plus make it easy to mount on a vehicle.

Personally I like the idea of a BA minigun. A brick-built minigun just looks out of place next to all the beautiful BA equipment.
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Posted: Saturday, March 14, 2009 8:42:04 AM


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This would be quite interesting, I don't see how it could be done though, but then again, who am I to say anything about the capabilities of CNC.

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Posted: Saturday, March 14, 2009 1:17:58 PM

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to me, brick bult ones don't feel right.I like BrickArms Better:D

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Posted: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 11:06:45 PM


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Corner Gas Man wrote:
I think if there is a BrickArms M134 MiniGun that is hand held then there should be a de-atachable piece that can be used to mount on a humvee,

Either the monopod or the Lewis-gun prototype-like lug could do the trick.

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Posted: Friday, March 20, 2009 2:48:49 AM

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Has anyone thought about if the minigun is hand held that the weight of the gun will make the minifig lean over if he isn't on a baseplate

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From my experience, if minifig is holding minigun with both hands, it keeps balance

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Posted: Sunday, March 22, 2009 6:35:14 AM


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Sikubricklover wrote:
Has anyone thought about if the minigun is hand held that the weight of the gun will make the minifig lean over if he isn't on a baseplate


Wolf3d wrote:
From my experience, if minifig is holding minigun with both hands, it keeps balance


Indeed. The few real-life prototypes of infantry-portable miniguns (most miniguns are mounted weapons) caters for this by including a pistol grip and a carry handle.

Now personally, I would prefer an accessory based mainly on the M134D, with thespade grips, although I wouldn't mind seeing a pistol-gripped one in addition to the regular mounted version. Although I do wonder whether a one-piece design for both are best, or if a single, universal minigun body with interchangeable grip options would be more versatile.*

*That said, tiny interlocking parts may pose much difficulty for Will, but we'll see.

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Posted: Friday, March 27, 2009 8:05:53 PM

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i like the idea of building it ourselves, it kinda fits the lego spirit

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Posted: Friday, March 27, 2009 9:47:05 PM

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Please do make a minigun.


I think a single molded piece could do but I've envisioned Will making a two-piece version, one for the barrel and one for the trigger/firing section.

A Bionicle plastic ammo chain would be cool as well.



the enigma that is badger
Posted: Friday, March 27, 2009 9:52:49 PM


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The Sissy CSI wrote:
Please do make a minigun.

Well, since you said please . . . . ;)

The Sissy CSI wrote:
A Bionicle plastic ammo chain would be cool as well.

A "Bionicle" plastic item really isn't feasible, but a solid buildable ammo chain, now that's an interesting concept . . .





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Posted: Friday, March 27, 2009 10:36:04 PM

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the enigma that is badger wrote:
A "Bionicle" plastic item really isn't feasible, but a solid buildable ammo chain, now that's an interesting concept . . .


Do you mean like a smaller version of the ammo chain?

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