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I do not know if this has already been suggested, so if it has, please excuse me.
Since you're doing both a monopod and bipod, Will, I was thinking - why not make an attachable scope (with the same type of clip that is on the monopod and bipod, allowing it to be attached to both BrickArms and TLC guns alike)?
This way, we could get an awesome arrangement of scoped weapons - scoped revolvers, scoped mp5s, scoped potato mashers, scoped shovels - without having you to decide between making either a scoped or unscoped version of, say, a rifle, and thus saving valuable mold space.
What do you guys think?
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You can't have too many scoped shovels in your arsenal! ;)
I've entertained this idea a couple of times in the past, and while it seems simple, it can't be done as a single piece due to the limitations of my 2-piece mold technology.
The flared ends of the scope require a parting line that runs parallel to the length of the scope. However, the clip would require a parting line that is perpendicular to the length of the scope. That arrangement is just not possible with my current techniques.
Perhaps when I can perfect a side-action mold prototype, or a simplified insert-molding process, I could attempt this. Until then, we're stuck. :(
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I get it. What if you mold it sideways so that the clip molds sideways and the scope has no flare on either end and just digs into each side of the mold? Wouldn't be as pretty, I guess.
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If making scopes with clips ever does become possible, I am all for them.
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[MOD - Off-topic comments deleted. If you have a question about these forums, PM a mod. - badger]
I think having scopes as a attachable accesory would be great! And since clips arent entirely possible why not just sell the scopes seperately? Different sized scopes on the brickarms market, avaible to people willing to do the customization work. I think it would be a good idea.
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Sorry for bumping such an old thread, but I didn't want to start a new one for exactly the same topic. If I understand you correctly, Will, you can't have the clip and the scope on a single part due to your molding technology, right? But should molding the clip and scope separately pose a problem? I've been thinking about this: a scope, without any clips attached, separately molded. Then another part, a dual clip (or 'ultimate connector of worlds'), with the same clip size as this piece: http://www.bricklink.com/catalogItemPic.asp?P=2555 could be used to attach the scope onto one end, and then the other end could be attached to a TLC or BrickArms weapon (or a banana... or a shovel... or an antenna...) how long this dual clip should be, I do not know. Visual presentation, fast MS Paint job. I don't know how the scope would look like, presumably not as crappy as this one. The 'UCOW' isn't very pretty, either, and the thing between the scope and the rifle is supposed to be that part. But, you get the idea, hopefully. 
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Berntsen wrote:But should molding the clip and scope separately pose a problem? No, I don't believe this concept would pose any particular molding problems, and your "ultimate connector" idea is certainly a good one. In terms of how long/deep the connection piece would need to be, I can easily picture the equivalent of two tops of the upcoming BA monopod (the "hand" portion) fused back to back. Based on my experience with prototypes of the monopod, this would give a firm grip on both ends while keeping the connecting piece fairly small. However, I should note that after a bit of experimenting with TLC minifig hands and crossbow this afternoon, it would appear that while this design for an attachable scope would work for many accessories, the body of the crossbow is slightly too wide for such an accessory. badger
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Say! I really like the universal connector idea! I think that it could be sold seperately and made to accomodate *other* accessories.
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the enigma that is badger wrote:the body of the crossbow is slightly too wide for such an accessory.
I see. Based on the recent thread concerning the scoped crossbow in particular, though, it seems as if I'm not the only one who thinks that it would be an awesome addition the the BrickArms arsenal. Perhaps, if an attachable scope ever becomes reality, a scoped crossbow could be sold separately, with a non-removable scope?
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Berntsen wrote:Perhaps, if an attachable scope ever becomes reality, a scoped crossbow could be sold separately, with a non-removable scope? It appears to be the concensus in that thread.
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GreenLead wrote:
It appears to be the concensus in that thread.
I understand that, but Badger's statement here about a clip (or minifig hand) not fitting on a TLC crossbow, and thus a scope accessory wouldn't either, made it seem as though a scoped crossbow wouldn't be possible at all. But attaching a scope to a TLC crossbow wouldn't really be necessary if a from-scratch scoped crossbow was going in for consideration anyway. o:)
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Ok, for the record: Custom designed scoped crossbow w/scope incorporated into the design: possible Removeable scope compatible with any weapon with a minifig-gripable body: possible Using said removable scope with the TLC crossbow: not possible since the TLC crossbow body is too wide *Disclaimer that none of what I've said in this thread is currently planned by Will* badger
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Thanks for clearing that up, badger! Never mind the TLC crossbow anyway - I'm more interested in seeing what could possibly be produced in the BA range.
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Another idea is that a separate clip could be made specifically to attach a BA scope to a TLC Crossbow.
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obxcrew wrote:Another idea is that a separate clip could be made specifically to attach a BA scope to a TLC Crossbow. In the parlence of Alton Brown (by far my favorite TV cooking show host), that would be a "unitasker" (ie something that has only one useful purpose). While a minifig hand-sized grip wouldn't fit the crossbow, it would fit many other weapons including most of the larger BA items and as such would be much more versatile accessory badger
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the enigma that is badger wrote:obxcrew wrote:Another idea is that a separate clip could be made specifically to attach a BA scope to a TLC Crossbow. In the parlence of Alton Brown (by far my favorite TV cooking show host), that would be a "unitasker" (ie something that has only one useful purpose). While a minifig hand-sized grip wouldn't fit the crossbow, it would fit many other weapons including most of the larger BA items and as such would be much more versatile accessory I know, but making a clip specifically for the crossbow, in addition to the regular clip, would be a lot easier than Will making a difficult-to-mold BA modern crossbow with built-in scope. And he could probably mold the crossbow scope clip as a limited-edition piece with his home CNC machine.
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obxcrew wrote:I know, but making a clip specifically for the crossbow, in addition to the regular clip, would be a lot easier than Will making a difficult-to-mold BA modern crossbow with built-in scope. Aside from having to be made in two parts, a crossbow poses no major design issues. Really, it's just a standard weapon with an added cross piece:  obxcrew wrote:And he could probably mold the crossbow scope clip as a limited-edition piece with his home CNC machine. True, this could be done, but then we're still talking about Will investing a good deal of time and effort into an accessory that has only one purpose. Let me phrase it this way: would you prefer a piece that connects to the crossbow or a limited-run custom weapon? Given the limited time and resources Will has, I'd opt for the latter. badger
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the enigma that is badger wrote: Let me phrase it this way: would you prefer a piece that connects to the crossbow or a limited-run custom weapon? Given the limited time and resources Will has, I'd opt for the latter. Ok, you have me convinced that a BA crossbow would be better. Thanks!
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I'm just digging this one back up. I thought, "Wouldn't accessory scopes be nice!" today and went to post my idea. Then I found this and decided to bring it back. I've looked at the suggestions and the universal connector ideas and like them a lot. I'm not sold on the whole crossbow thing though. I kinda just wanted something to stick on top of a BA AK. So...What does everyone think?
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Quote:Sorry for bumping such an old thread, but I didn't want to start a new one for exactly the same topic. If I understand you correctly, Will, you can't have the clip and the scope on a single part due to your molding technology, right? But should molding the clip and scope separately pose a problem? I've been thinking about this: a scope, without any clips attached, separately molded. Then another part, a dual clip (or 'ultimate connector of worlds'), with the same clip size as this piece: http://www.bricklink.com/catalogItemPic.asp?P=2555 could be used to attach the scope onto one end, and then the other end could be attached to a TLC or BrickArms weapon (or a banana... or a shovel... or an antenna...) how long this dual clip should be, I do not know. Visual presentation, fast MS Paint job. I don't know how the scope would look like, presumably not as crappy as this one. The 'UCOW' isn't very pretty, either, and the thing between the scope and the rifle is supposed to be that part. But, you get the idea, hopefully. Thats an interesting idea, but I would rather have the clip permanently attached to the scope so that a small part such as that may not be lost. Quote:A scope can be made like so:
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Glueing 2 cut minifig hands together with a lightsabe hilt. Easy!
Sorry for the quality, didn't have enough time for a sophisticated shot....I'll improve it later, or tomorrow, I get back at 8:10... While a common method, it may not solve all out problems as not everyone is skilled at modifications, or do some people have the patience for it.
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