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Manwyn
Posted: Monday, November 26, 2007 10:04:30 PM

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While it may end up looking a lot like the M1, I think the Mosin Nagant rifle would be a nice addition. Although the length may not translate all that well to a minifigs size because it'd be just as tall as one!

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/75/Mosin-Nagant.jpg

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brickarmsfan21
Posted: Monday, November 26, 2007 10:18:07 PM

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Well, it does have some differences from the M1, for one, it seems to be a bolt action, and the clip seems to be slanted at an angle, so yes, it would be reconizable fomr the M1.

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chandlerparker
Posted: Tuesday, November 27, 2007 12:26:01 PM


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I actually own a Mosin-Nagant, and would love to see this weapon added to the BrickArms lineup. I think several features make it different enough from the M1 Garand to warrant its own mold slot. They include (As noted by brickarmsfan21) the slanted, fixed clip and the long, slender barrel, which a long spike bayonet could be molded to, to make it even more distinctive. Also, as Russian solders often did (I'm not sure why) the barrel could be molded so it looked like a cloth strip was wrapped around it. I envision the BrickArms Mosin-Nagant to be sold in two versions, one with the bayonet, and one without (Will could cut off the bayonets like he does with several other weapons' scopes).

Great idea, Manwyn!
the enigma that is badger
Posted: Tuesday, November 27, 2007 4:47:51 PM


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The only issue I can see with a Mosin-Nagant is that the design, at least to my eyes, is very similar to the Lee-Enfield aside from a slight difference in forward stock length and diameter:

Mosin Nagant side shot compared to one of the Lee-Enfield.

It's likely that a minifig-compatible version of either would be similar enough to the other weapon such that one could double for the other. Would there be interest in a sniper variant of the Mosin-Nagant? It'd certainly make a nice compliment to a sniper Kar98.

*insert usual statement about there being no current plans to produce anything discussed above here*

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chandlerparker
Posted: Tuesday, November 27, 2007 6:01:35 PM


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the enigma that is badger wrote:

The only issue I can see with a Mosin-Nagant is that the design, at least to my eyes, is very similar to the Lee-Enfield aside from a slight difference in forward stock length and diameter:

Mosin Nagant side shot compared to one of the Lee-Enfield.


I think the resemblance to the Lee-Enfield could be solved by, if the Lee-Enfield was made, making the butt stock sharper in shape, the barrel end slightly squared, and the weapon a bit blockier overall - less tapered than the Mosin-Nagant.

the enigma that is badger wrote:
It's likely that a minifig-compatible version of either would be similar enough to the other weapon such that one could double for the other.


I, personally, am opposed to a BrickArms weapon that could be used as both a Lee-Enfield and Mosin-Nagant; I think they should be made seperately.

the enigma that is badger wrote:
Would there be interest in a sniper variant of the Mosin-Nagant?


I do think a scoped Mosin-Nagant would be nice as well; perhaps, as a base, Will could mold a Mosin Nagant with a scope and bayonet. The rifle could be sold scoped, with a bayonet, or without either.

Mike
Posted: Tuesday, November 27, 2007 6:40:07 PM
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I would like the sniper version of that weapon it would make a good ww2 sniper rifle.

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Tom
Posted: Wednesday, November 28, 2007 2:08:39 AM

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Quote:

the enigma that is badger wrote:
It's likely that a minifig-compatible version of either would be similar enough to the other weapon such that one could double for the other.


I, personally, am opposed to a BrickArms weapon that could be used as both a Lee-Enfield and Mosin-Nagant; I think they should be made seperately.


Well, having a weapon that could double as anouther isnt that bad an idea. The only thing im against is labeling a weapon as 2 weapons. For instance seeing a weapon labeled "Lee-Enfield/Mosin-Nagant" isnt that appealing to me. Instead I belive brickarms should sell 1 weapon or the other , rather then selling both, and let the buyer decide what it is.



Also a scoped Mosin-Nagant isnt a bad idea.
Manwyn
Posted: Wednesday, November 28, 2007 1:21:39 PM

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Scopes and bayonets would be a great addition to the MN, although I don't think a sniper would have much use for a bayonet because he's a bit further away. :) But I'm a big fan of accessories! Knowing me I'd stick a silencer on it and give it a wire stock too. And in regards to a Karabiner 98k, you could make an approximation by shaving some bits off a Mosin, like the box magazine...I think I hear an interesting vignette coming...

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chandlerparker
Posted: Wednesday, November 28, 2007 2:47:32 PM


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Manwyn wrote:
Scopes and bayonets would be a great addition to the MN, although I don't think a sniper would have much use for a bayonet because he's a bit further away. :)


Yes, a Mosin-Nagant would look very strange with both - what I'm suggesting is that Will mold a rifle with both a scope and bayonet as a base, and sell a scoped or bayoneted version.
Manwyn
Posted: Wednesday, November 28, 2007 3:52:45 PM

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Nah, he should leave them both on and let the user decide. Like I said, I'm a big fan of accessories! :)

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chandlerparker
Posted: Wednesday, November 28, 2007 4:22:31 PM


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Manwyn wrote:
Nah, he should leave them both on and let the user decide.


Or sell all three versions. Some people (like me) dislike customizing, so a rifle with just a scope and one with just a bayonet would be nice.
the enigma that is badger
Posted: Wednesday, December 05, 2007 2:55:10 AM


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Manwyn wrote:
I think the Mosin Nagant rifle would be a nice addition.


This picture alone has convinced me we need at least one scoped Russian rifle:



Now THAT screams for a custom minifig!

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Will
Posted: Wednesday, December 05, 2007 3:03:22 AM


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the enigma that is badger wrote:
Now THAT screams for a custom minifig! [badger


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Russian446
Posted: Wednesday, December 05, 2007 4:20:53 PM
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Vladmir Putin!

Wow, imagine him as his own minifig! Give him a C96 and a PPK and he'll be ready to go out on the field!
chandlerparker
Posted: Wednesday, December 05, 2007 4:29:11 PM


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the enigma that is badger wrote:
Now THAT screams for a custom minifig!


Is it possible to suspend Official Spokesmen?* I am strongly against a minifigure based on this picture . . . .

Russian446 wrote:
Vladmir Putin!


Is that a picture of Putin? I didn't even recognize him.

*Just kidding, badger.
Russian446
Posted: Wednesday, December 05, 2007 4:52:23 PM
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Yeah, although I may live in the US, and my mom forgot all Russian from her grandparents and parents, i do keep up with the Russian news. To confirm, yes, that is Vladmir Putin, Obxcrew. Putin is a game hunter and an avid weapons man in his free-time away from leading Russia.
the enigma that is badger
Posted: Wednesday, December 05, 2007 9:32:18 PM


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Russian446 is correct: that is indeed a real picture of the current president of Russia. That's the difference between Russia and the US I suppose: Bush just clears brush, while Putin stalks and kills through it.

Putin on the recent Russian elections: "You do not run against Vladimir Putin! You run from him!"

Ok, that's enough nonsense on my part, so back to Mosin-Nagant talk. Back to brass tacks: I'd agree with obxcrew that it's more efficient to design a weapon with both a scope and a bayonet as this gives Will the ability to offer both versions to Brickarms patrons.

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Edoskeleton273
Posted: Friday, February 15, 2008 8:04:44 AM

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Wha....THATS a Mosin Nagant? When I think of Mosin Nagants I think of this:



Theres alot of difference isnt there?

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Mcbob
Posted: Friday, February 15, 2008 12:21:03 PM

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Edoskeleton273 wrote:
Wha....THATS a Mosin Nagant? When I think of Mosin Nagants I think of this:



Theres alot of difference isnt there?


Yet, that is a heavily fictionalized version from a video game.

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fighter63
Posted: Friday, February 15, 2008 10:04:29 PM

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This is my first full thing for people who do not know what the mosin nagant is.

Wikipedia page for the Mosin Nagant.

I am all in for the mosin nagant.

[MOD - Unless you're posing design information that is applicable to adapting an item to a minifig accessories, please just link to pages that feature detailed information about a weapon's history. - badger]

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